Podcast: Calvin Arterberry — Navigating the Fourth Industrial Revolution and the Future of Work

Calvin Arterberry, CEO of Flowbot Forge, discusses AI and the future of work. Calvin brings extensive experience in product design and UX leadership, having previously shipped products that drove tens of millions in revenue at major brands, including Verizon, Lowe's, Best Buy, and Wayfair, before becoming a serial entrepreneur. Calvin shares his perspective on navigating the "Fourth Industrial Revolution" and why professionals must shift from being task-executors to orchestrators. Oz and Calvin engage in a lively debate about the realities of short and long-term AI disruption, explore why self-disruption is the ultimate career strategy, and discuss Calvin’s core hiring philosophy of prioritizing hunger and innate aptitude over a standard résumé.

Apr 22, 2026
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Podcast: Calvin Arterberry — Navigating the Fourth Industrial Revolution and the Future of Work

Podcast: Calvin Arterberry — Navigating the Fourth Industrial Revolution and the Future of Work

Calvin Arterberry, CEO of Flowbot Forge, discusses AI and the future of work. Calvin brings extensive experience in product design and UX leadership, having previously shipped products that drove tens of millions in revenue at major brands, including Verizon, Lowe's, Best Buy, and Wayfair, before becoming a serial entrepreneur. Calvin shares his perspective on navigating the "Fourth Industrial Revolution" and why professionals must shift from being task-executors to orchestrators. Oz and Calvin engage in a lively debate about the realities of short and long-term AI disruption, explore why self-disruption is the ultimate career strategy, and discuss Calvin’s core hiring philosophy of prioritizing hunger and innate aptitude over a standard résumé.

Podcast: Calvin Arterberry — Navigating the Fourth Industrial Revolution and the Future of Work

Calvin Arterberry, CEO of Flowbot Forge, discusses AI and the future of work. Calvin brings extensive experience in product design and UX leadership, having previously shipped products that drove tens of millions in revenue at major brands, including Verizon, Lowe's, Best Buy, and Wayfair, before becoming a serial entrepreneur. Calvin shares his perspective on navigating the "Fourth Industrial Revolution" and why professionals must shift from being task-executors to orchestrators. Oz and Calvin engage in a lively debate about the realities of short and long-term AI disruption, explore why self-disruption is the ultimate career strategy, and discuss Calvin’s core hiring philosophy of prioritizing hunger and innate aptitude over a standard résumé.

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